Shipping US to UK: Part 1
Porsche friends Steven and Hayden missing this week’s London-Casablanca rally due to shipping problems was a major let down. Not just for my buddies and the many interested Porsche enthusiasts across Europe and North America, but also in Hayden’s native Australia, where many friends and family were following his exploits with delight. The fail proved that, no matter how finely-tuned the logistics, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In this case, that weak link was the shippers.
Though I’ve collected a numbers of cars from shippers on behalf of friends, my Varmint 911SC’s journey from Los Angeles to London is the first time I have personally container-shipped anything. My experience says that it is definitely not “stick a box on a boat and pick it up at the other end”.
The first question is always: where to ship from? Varmint was bought in San Francisco, but all the shippers that I spoke to following recommendations from fellow R Gruppers were in LA. We would either have to transport Varmint to LA after purchase ($250) or drive it there ourselves to drop for shipping. I wanted to drive in San Francisco and felt that the less time spent out of my hands the better, so I opted to drive it to LA myself. This meant that I had to fly out of LA coming home, therefore I had to fly in to LA to get any sort of deal on a ticket and then fly north to San Fran. Sounds like a tiny thing but added cost and time – about $100 and 6 hours – to the process. In hindsight, I should have paid the premium to fly direct outbound, definitely what I’ll do in the future.
Choosing a shipper wasn’t easy. I spoke to a few guys who had used Schumacher quite happily, and for a while I swapped some emails with one of their guys in New Jersey. Things went well enough until I mentioned to best mate Rob Campbell at Raceresto.com that I was considering using them and he headed me off at the pass, talking about problems they had endured bringing classic race cars back from the US. A good friend in the Netherlands then had a problem involving a car which should have gone back across America ending up on a boat to Europe. The final straw was swapping some slightly abrasive emails with the UK end of the shipping chain – that finished Schumacher for me.
Rob recommended CARS, as he had used them quite successfully, but their prices were quite a bit higher. At this stage, I was a bit stumped.
Before buying Varmint, I’d been looking for an early 911 project, or something ‘74-’77 in narrow body guise. One of the cars I had considered was a seemingly rot-free roller ‘76 911S up in Seattle (red car above), which I had considered buying to backdate. The deal hadn’t come off, but the seller had recommended a shipping expert: Doug White at Able Cargo down in San Diego. I dropped Doug a line and we started talking. Turns out Doug is a Manchester boy who went out to California on a working holiday, started Able Cargo after French and UK friends asked him to help out with shipping and hasn’t looked back since.
Doug was totally my kind of guy. When he agreed to match Schumacher’s best quote, it was a no-brainer. On top of that, he was using Kingstown Shipping in the UK and I had dealt with Alan Shores there on a few occasions, last time on a Porsche World car importing article with good friend Andy Perk’s SC C3, which he shipped from the US east coast in 2008. Though not exactly FOC, Kingstown were quite a bit cheaper than the Schumacher UK end, which was another plus. Everything had fallen into place beautifully, so I confirmed arrangements and booked my flights. Part 1 was done.


There are 7 Comments to "Shipping US to UK: Part 1"
John,
I really hope THIS story has a happy ending, you can’t believe how much I want to learn there is a reliable and competant car shipping company available to us all.
Hindsight is always 50-50. Sending it by air takes about one day, and then a few days perhaps to clear customs. Depends upon who does paperwork. With air cargo in the toilet, you should pay perhaps $1500 right now.
$1500 is a good price for something that needs speed but I wasn't in a hurry. Have you got any decent air shipping contacts? Be interested to get those.
How is the weather? Yuk here, bet H is looking forward to getting home to sun.
John, my contact's initial ballpark figure, were actually far outside the ball park. JFK to CDG is more like $2200. SFO to CDG might be another $100 or $200.
Cool update mate, thanks for that!
Hey John, I'm English and have been out here in California for the past 10 years or so… Due to unforseen circumstances though I'm now looking at the practicalities of moving back to the UK. In my time here I've had a bunch of older English cars, the two I still have are a '59 MGA and a '52 XK120. Both of these cars I have restored myself, ground up, and so I am "attached" especially in this current 'soft' market.
If I entertain bringing these cars back to the UK, the shipping is easily quantified however, the rest of the possible costs, including "Import Duties" remain something of a grey area at the moment. I have been told, and these cars are both in near perfect condition, that UK customs will charge up to 15% of the cars value based upon their own assessment of what the car's are worth…. Can you shed any light upon this based upon your recent experience ????
Many thanks and I'll continue researching !!! I will contact Doug too, also from the same neck of the woods !!
Hi Martin, the cars will come back with you duty and VAT free as personal imports owned longer than 6 months. You won't be able to sell them for a while though. Here's a link for you: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/VAT/sectors/consumers/pers...